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Per the review, best I can do without self-doxxing: https://debank.com/stream/3386767

Why do I post on DeBank? Is their default stream a cesspool of self-promoters and ads? Typically. But it's also the only crypto site I go to often. I keep hoping they'll clean it up someday. And at least it's not owned by a wannabe Nazi.

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First, to take the story at face value: if not disclosed to other investors, the sweetheart refund deal is securities fraud, because it concealed that the “lead” investor didn’t actually have skin in the game.

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I'm not sure crypto is a "security." The very name suggests a transparency, longevity, and accountability that does not seem to exist for either the instruments or the framework surrounding crypto. Now, fraud need not apply to securities. And fraud is super easy to understand as lying. So, it seems on my very limited understanding that with securities, being an investor means you had to comply within this hardened framework, it carries with it an implicit statement that you abide by the framework. So, when you don't disclose certain facts, then you commit securities fraud with your lie being you abide by the framework. But if there's no framework, there is nothing to abide by, therefore, lack of disclosure might not be fraud, because there is no lie, only omission, and there's no framework that says omission matters.

If I'm at a poker table, a friendly game with friends, and I told a buddy, hey, I'll give you a signal when I got a great hand, and you'll say it loudly that you think I got a great hand, and then people will think you figured out my tell. Then when it's convenient, I'll throw the same signal, but I won't have a great hand, and you can make the same statement. If you do, I'll spilt my winnings with you for that hand. Well, I didn't say anything did I? My buddy did. So he maybe committed fraud. But did I? Well, if we all had a rule that you can't collude with friends like this, and that colluding to perpetrate a lie is the same as lying, then I did. But until that framework exists, I don't see how I lied, thus I don't see how I committed fraud. (Of course, I would never do this unless everyone thought this kind of thing was fun, and I don't actually find this kind of thing fun, so I probably wouldn't want to be involved, and I don't like anyone lying on my behalf, or because of me in any way, regardless.)

Of course, this cannot mean all fun and no consequences. It should mean if you are not held to the standards then you don't get to enjoy all the benefits that come with running enterprises in the framework: I.e. access to and protection within the U.S. banking system (for the instrument at least, for the individual is complicated). Not a lawyer. Not a securities expert. Just some rando with some thoughts. I also definitely don't want to keep crypto out of securities because I want backroom deals. I just think: a) I do not trust the people in power now who currently want to bring it into the world of securities, b) I do not trust their choices on who they will target with securities law, c) I do not think compliance will be scaled appropriately to the capabilities/sizes of the teams and will likely end up leading to monopolies. I don't want Big Crypto to be added to the list of Big enshiittifiers. Of course, Big Crypto may already exists, but since the biggest enshittifiers ARE in the world of securities, that's likely where the best tools are for enshittification.

I do think it is a great thing to call out people like DZM does in this post. And then don't invite them to your next poker party.

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